Sometimes when I visit older relatives they only seem to talk about rheumatism . If that's the case I usually make my way out of there or if that's not possible I try to bring the subject to something positive. When more people are present, especially older ones that is not always possible and then I usually take my next escape: my phone. I'm there then just for them to have some company, but in fact the whole conversation just passes by me without hearing the details. It's the same everytime anyway. I hope I will become different when I'm old.